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作者: 龙翔五洲    时间: 2013-6-11 23:02:53     标题: 香港将驱逐叛逃CIA泄密者/俄羅斯考慮向斯諾登提供政治庇護

香港将驱逐叛逃CIA泄密者

作者: 牛谣时爆(卫.岭.银.蝉) [size=-1][214707:7154], 15:39:02 06/10/2013:- 论剑谈棋 豪杰尽聚 - 华岳论坛 - http://washeng.net/


Hong Kong Seen as Likely to Extradite Leaker if U.S. Asks

HONG KONG — In choosing Hong Kong as an initial place to take refuge from the United States government, the National Security Agency contractor who has acknowledged leaking documents has selected a jurisdiction where it may be possible to delay extradition but not avoid it, legal and law enforcement experts here said. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"




The contractor, Edward J. Snowden, was apparently still in Hong Kong at 12:30 p.m. Monday. The Mira Hotel, an elegant boutique hotel on the Kowloon side of Victoria Harbor, said Monday evening that he had stayed at the hotel but checked out at that time. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"




It was not clear whether Mr. Snowden remained in Hong Kong or left the territory, which is part of China but has a high degree of autonomy. The hotel gave no further information, and the Hong Kong government declined to discuss Mr. Snowden’s whereabouts, citing a policy of not commenting on individual cases....华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

“All cases will be handled in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong,” the government said in a brief statement.

The United States Consulate in Hong Kong referred questions to the Justice Department in Washington, which has said only that it is in the initial stages of an investigation into the release of information about government programs to monitor telephone and Internet communications. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

The Obama administration has said the programs were focused on the communications of people who were not American citizens. But Mr. Snowden asserted in a video interview, released by the Guardian newspaper of Britain on Sunday, that the scale of the surveillance was much broader and involved the recording of a vast array of communications in the United States and elsewhere. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

Hong Kong was a British colony before its return to Chinese sovereignty in 1997, and it still follows the legal system it inherited from the British, with broad protections for civil liberties. Mr. Snowden told The Guardian that he had fled here because “they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent.” ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

But Hong Kong won that reputation mainly as a place where Chinese political dissidents sought refuge from mainland authorities, not people sought by other governments. The Hong Kong authorities have worked closely with law enforcement agencies in the United States for years and have usually accepted requests for extradition under longstanding bilateral agreements, according to Regina Ip, a former secretary of security who is now a member of the territory’s legislature. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

“He won’t find Hong Kong a safe harbor,” Ms. Ip said. “Those agreements have been enforced for more than 10 years. If the U.S. submits a request, we would act in accordance with the law.”

Nicholas Bequelin, a researcher with Human Rights Watch who is based in Hong Kong, wondered why Mr. Snowden would have considered the territory a good place to stay after he left Hawaii three weeks ago. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

“If he took time to talk with a lawyer, he would have decided somewhere else was a better prospect” to avoid extradition, Mr. Bequelin said. “His explanation of his choice of Hong Kong was a bit off.” ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

The Hong Kong Police Force would not arrest him unless he broke a Hong Kong law or the United States issued an Interpol notice or sent a warrant, said Stephen Vickers, a former head of the force’s intelligence division who now runs his own risk consulting firm. But he said the police probably began monitoring Mr. Snowden as soon as word spread that he had taken responsibility for the leaks. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

The Hong Kong authorities have generally been willing to extradite suspects when the United States sends a warrant, said Jonathan Acton-Bond, a barrister and former magistrate who has represented clients in some of the best-known extradition cases here. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

Hong Kong enforces extradition laws more than other jurisdictions in Southeast Asia, Mr. Acton-Bond said. But Hong Kong did not follow Britain’s example after the Sept. 11 attacks of lowering the standard of legal evidence required before approving extradition to the United States. Hong Kong also has legal protections against politically motivated extradition cases, but they have seldom been invoked. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

In the video interview with The Guardian, Mr. Snowden said he was considering seeking refuge in Iceland because of that country’s history of protecting Internet freedom. Hong Kong journalists identified the room where the video was recorded as being in the W hotel in Kowloon, near a station of the city’s airport express train. They found journalists for The Guardian checking out of that hotel at lunchtime on Monday. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

Mr. Snowden referred in the video to a Central Intelligence Agency station as being “just up the road in the consulate here in Hong Kong” and pointed out the window, whose curtains were drawn. But the hotel is actually across the harbor from the consulate. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

Mr. Snowden’s decision to go to Hong Kong introduces a potential complication in Chinese-American relations less than two days after President Obama and President Xi Jinping met in California for a series of wide-ranging discussions. Hong Kong is one of the largest hubs for China’s intelligence agencies, which are widely believed to occupy several floors of a black-glass building in the center of the city. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

Mr. Snowden, a 29-year-old computer technician, has said that he had access to lists of all American agents overseas and other information, but that he did not take all of the data. The Washington Post has reported that he gave the newspaper 41 slides from a PowerPoint presentation. After discussing the national security implications of the material with American officials, the newspaper decided to publish only four of them. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

While Mr. Snowden — or possibly his personal computer — might be a valuable prize for China’s intelligence agencies, experts were skeptical that China would risk harming relations with the United States by exercising its legal authority to block an extradition request from the Justice Department. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

“I don’t think he’s a big enough fish that Beijing would try to intervene to affect the decision of the Hong Kong authorities one way or the other,” said Willy Lam, a specialist in Chinese government decision-making at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

The most celebrated extradition case here in recent years involved two Pakistanis and an American who were accused of trying to exchange heroin and hashish for Stinger antiaircraft missiles in 2002. They were arrested by Hong Kong police officers working with undercover F.B.I. agents, who were pretending to be selling the missiles. The authorities said the men were planning to give the missiles to Al Qaeda. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"

The men initially fought extradition, but agreed to it after three months in a Hong Kong jail. Their lawyer, Mr. Acton-Bond, complained that they were kept in solitary confinement for 16 hours a day, housed separately in cells with no other Urdu speakers, and were “compelled to watch Chinese-language television.”...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"

All three later pleaded guilty in a San Diego courtroom and received prison terms of up to 18 years.

俄羅斯考慮向斯諾登提供政治庇護

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【on.cc 東方互動 專訊】 俄羅斯媒體引述總統普京發言人報道，若華府監聽電話洩密主角斯諾登向俄羅斯提出政治庇護，莫斯科會考慮其庇護要求。

http://news.on.cc/cnt/world/20130611/bkn-20130611161208032-0611_00902_001.html

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作者: 李宪源    时间: 2013-6-11 23:56:24



读此港媒谬文，是可忍，孰不可忍！

香港乃中国一地方政府，竟然跟美国存在主权国家间才应该有的“引渡协定”！

香港到底回归了中国没有？

这次因揭露美国专制恶行而面临迫害威胁的所谓“泄密者”，如果被“引渡”回公知们无耻吹捧的“自由世界天堂”，那也是中华人民共和国中央政府显示其“特色社会主义”本质特征的最佳时机。轮得上香港媒体叽叽喳喳么？

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作者: 反毛者乃畜生    时间: 2013-6-12 02:19:38

港灿，尤其是高层的港灿，还是有一种英美的家奴意识。贱，真贱，真下贱！
言论自由何在，民主何在，人权何在？

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作者: laobing    时间: 2013-6-12 04:33:08

完全是走狗心态。不是说自由、人权之上吗？中国和美国没有引渡协议，作为中国一部分的香港‘高度自治’到可以和外国签引渡协议了？

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作者: 龙翔五洲    时间: 2013-6-12 05:48:17

laobing 发表于 2013-6-12 04:33
完全是走狗心态。不是说自由、人权之上吗？中国和美国没有引渡协议，作为中国一部分的香港‘高度自治’到可 ...

如果没有拘捕，又如何引渡？

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作者: 棲霞客    时间: 2013-6-12 09:29:03

香港的普世價值是"獸群"信奉的價值, 對於人類來說, 只能把他引渡給美國"處置". 但既然穿著西裝當走狗也不用特地把尾巴露出來, 怕人家不知道你是狗?

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作者: signal    时间: 2013-6-12 10:18:32

如此愚蠢中国政府，多好的机会不会利用。大概自己屁股不干净，心虚不敢啊。

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作者: 棲霞客    时间: 2013-6-12 18:03:08

這不就美國版的"陳光誠"嗎? 中国政府在搞什麼! 不趁機嚴重關切"美國人權"狀況, 竟任由香港地方走狗政府狂吠!

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作者: laobing    时间: 2013-6-13 05:21:17

刚查了一下，香港和美国还真有引渡协议，但是必须罪名在美和港都成立，而且不包括政治原因。根据基本法，人大有解释权。所以这件事第一看美国要不要求引渡，第二看香港政府同不同意引渡，最后看中央政府的态度。美国可能会虚晃一枪，放这个有胆量的年轻人一马，最后这在第三国下手。

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作者: 龙翔五洲    时间: 2013-6-13 09:12:42

留园网上一位网友的评论：
《正常的司法程序是这样》 评论人:欧阳羽扇死全家 [布衣] @欧阳羽扇死全家@的微博 博客
发送时间: 2013年6月12日 11:21:51 【管理】评论内容:
美国最高法院审查国安局监听民众是否违宪，

如果违宪的话，那就停止监听，snowden当然无罪，不起诉，不引渡

如果不违宪的话，那美国司法部调查snowden是否违反美国法律

如果违法，那就向香港提出引渡申请

然后香港司法方审查美国国安局是否违宪，如果违宪，那snowden就是政治犯，就拒绝引渡

如果不违宪，那就按刑事案嫌疑犯把他引渡回去

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作者: signal    时间: 2013-6-13 20:01:59

龙翔五洲 发表于 2013-6-13 09:12
留园网上一位网友的评论：
《正常的司法程序是这样》 评论人:欧阳羽扇死全家 [布衣] @欧阳羽扇死全家@的微 ...

如果程序是这样，那么由谁出面指控国安局违法？要不要开庭？假如连个听证会也没有，最高法院可能就随便说了。

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