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达拉斯法官说,你的孩子想进ICU要等另一个孩子先死掉 [复制链接]

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发表于 2021-8-15 07:26:55 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
本帖最后由 远航一号 于 2021-8-15 10:23 编辑

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/us/dallas-county-no-pediatric-icu-beds-left/index.htmlCNN八月十三日报道,因为新冠肆虐,得克萨斯州达拉斯县法官Clay Jenkins在周五早晨的一次新闻会议上称,达拉斯已经没有空缺的儿科ICU床位了(zero ICU beds left for children),“如果你的孩子遭遇车祸,先天心脏病,或者,更有可能的情况,因为新冠,需要ICU床位,我们已经没了。你的孩子要等另一个孩子死掉。你的孩子不能上呼吸机,她/他需要被飞机转送到Temple,俄克拉荷马,或者任何找得到一张床的地方(That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have Covid and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears.)”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/13/texas-florida-covid-coronavirus-us-hospitalizations

The Guardian八月十三日报道,俄勒冈州长Kate Brown称打算安排部队来帮助当地医院(Oregon governor to send troops to help hospitals as Covid surges)

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/field-hospital-opens-parking-garage-mississippi-sees-skyrocketing/story?id=79433418
ABC新闻八月十三日报道,密西西比大学医疗中心在停车场重新建立野外医院。医护工作者将在那里工作至少14天。
“很遗憾,我们又要在一个帐篷里工作了(注:field hospital就是帐篷),虽然我们都不想回到这个节点,但是我们还是到了无法照顾所有新冠病人的这个节点。我想当你看见一个大型学术医疗中心开始建立野外医院,就表示我们的系统已经快要崩溃了。”Dr. Alan Jones说。("Unfortunately, we were standing in a tent again. None of us wanted to come back to this point, but it's gotten to the point where we're just not able to care for the patients at UMMC, and in the state of Mississippi, that need the care with COVID," Dr. Alan Jones, associate vice chancellor for clinical affairs, said at a press conference on Thursday. "I think when you're seeing a field hospital at a major academic medical center, we're pretty much at a collapse-like system.")

达拉斯的学校今年原本打算取消远程教学选项,然而开学后不久(注:8月9日开学),因为新冠病例飙升,最终能来上课的只有寥寥数人。现在他们和洛杉矶、西雅图以及其他大城市一样,提供集中(centralized)远程教学。对此,纽约市市议会选举人Shahana Hanif在推特上表示,目前不提供远程教学选项的纽约市应该马上行动改变政策,不能在9月开学后沦落到达拉斯的处境。
@ShahanaFromBK
We also need a centralized remote learning option this fall. This requires coordination, preparation, investment, & time. We shouldn't be scrambling to set this up in the final days before school starts. The time to act is now: we can't end up like Dallas.
@MarkTreyger718
Dallas also entered this school year initially saying no remote option until the school year actually started and they saw cases spike and attendance was dismal. They now join Los Angeles, Seattle, and other major cities in offering a centralized remote option.

推特用户@Laurieallee称,自己认识一位打完疫苗的人,在新冠轻症后,可能需要安装起搏器来应对心脏损伤,而他同样打过疫苗的恋人则在感染病毒后血糖偏高,疑似被触发糖尿病。两个人都是30几岁。Laurie表示:“我们不能和病毒共存。”
@Laurieallee
I know someone facing possible pacemaker for heart dam[backcolor=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.03)]age due to
"mild" breakthrough Covid case 6 weeks ago.  His partner who also got sick (another breakthrough) is being evaluated for high blood sugar--possible diabetes. They're both mid 30s.We can't "live with Covid."
同时,Laurie对Biden选择在新冠病例飙升时期去度假表示不满,“如果是川普这样去度假,CNN, MSNBC,推特民主党声援者肯定早就怒气冲天了。停止脑残粉和为正在犯错中的执政者粉饰,我们正在一场危机中,而总统的应对简直糟透了。“
@laurieallee
If Trump had gone on vacation like this, CNN, MSNBC & blue wave Twitter would have (rightfully) melted down with outrage.Stop stanning & carrying water for this admin as it screws up.  This isn't a football game. We are in absolute crisis.[backcolor=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.03)] @POTUS response to #delta is abysmal.

推特用户@MagisterBracey表示,抗疫不力是一种大规模的、国家支持的暴力,成千上万的人将要死亡或者遭受长期的健康损伤。但这不是你的邻居的错误(注:美国现在舆论中倾向于将疫情归罪不打疫苗的个人,强调个人责任),我们的政府有能力阻止这一切,但是他们纵容了开放导致病毒肆意传播。
@MagisterBracey
Anything other than a full shutdown at this point is large-scale, state-sponsored violence. Hundreds of thousands more will die or suffer permanent damage. This is not your neighbor’s fault. Our government has the power to stop this, but instead encourages it.

推特用户@wsbgnl则对左倾的学术界对疫情政策的无动于衷表示不满。“我很无语那些花了很多时间研究底层人生活的左人,却对本来可以预防(但因抗疫不力导致的)即将到来的大批人的苦难风暴视而不见。“
@wsbgnl
My new fascination is left-leaning academic and policy types who focus on social disadvantage, poverty and health, and aren’t particularly interested in or concerned about covid policy right now or going forward
Even now! I am honestly speechless. So many people who spend countless hours reading, writing, talking about the well-being of disadvantaged people are just completely absent as yet another tsunami of preventable suffering arrives.









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发表于 2021-8-15 07:47:57 |只看该作者
本帖最后由 九花猫 于 2021-8-15 08:15 编辑

我的看法:
1.西方国家到底能不能做到和病毒和谐共存,未来会不会重新采取强硬的抗议措施,还有待观望。现在提学习他们的经验放开防疫管理未免太早。
2.根据推上粗略观察,很多长新冠(long covid)受害者或者新冠死亡、致残者的家属,不管是在川普还是在拜登治下感染,都对两任总统的抗议政策表示了不满。可见,假如中国也开放后,新冠受害者(估计这次可能真要三千万了)同样会不满新的防疫政策,其怒气首当其冲的自然是政府,一直鼓吹西方抗疫的自由派也跑不了。
3.所以左派应该加入那两者的阵营吗?我认为不。对人民而言,防疫封锁中的种种遭遇虽然压的人喘不过气,但是假如真的因病致残或者痛失亲友,那才真是时代的一粒灰尘变成头顶的大山了。我们要反对的从来都不是抗疫本身,在没有特效药前,在新冠没有确认真的退化成流感前,严格抗疫,不管背后有何动机,在方向上就是对的。该批判的是执行中的官僚主义,高压手段,对人民的粗暴对待。我们应该要求对需要隔离的人民采取更人性化的措施,给生活受影响的人群提供补助(要资产阶级出血自然不容易,但是如果资产阶级连这种补助都不愿出,那么就更别指望他们能在开放后给新冠致残的人残疾补助,给大规模患病的人报销医疗费用了。而现在封锁虽然劳民伤财,与真的开放后大规模新冠受害者所需的花费相比,仍然是合算的)

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发表于 2021-8-15 10:22:28 |只看该作者
九花猫 发表于 2021-8-15 07:47
我的看法:
1.西方国家到底能不能做到和病毒和谐共存,未来会不会重新采取强硬的抗议措施,还有待观望。现 ...

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防治新冠本来就没有万全之策,资本主义条件下当然更加重人民苦难。

问题是怎样权衡利害得失

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