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假托是秦刚内部讲话的录音声称中美必有一战 [复制链接]

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:37:14 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 远航一号 于 2023-6-5 07:47 编辑

这里有一段视频声称是秦刚内部讲话录音

显然不是本人原声,但内容值得分析,动机不明

https://twitter.com/VirtuHanna/status/1665336682156109824

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:38:00 |显示全部楼层
录音本身为汉语

下面先把英文摘要复制过来,供参考

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:39:28 |显示全部楼层
Here are some of the key points laid out in the audio:
• The China-US dispute is fundamentally a fight for the right to live
• The US has always regarded China as its number one enemy, and uses China as a scapegoat for its domestic issues
• China is no longer willing to be bullied by the US and now openly opposes it
• The US and China are in a state of de-facto cold war, and the only way for the US to prevail would be to wage war, which it is willing to do
• The negotiating table and mutual shared interests are useless
• China needs to maintain a high level of vigilance and prepare for all eventualities

https://twitter.com/VirtuHanna/status/1665335955849461760

中美之争是生存权之争

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:39:34 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2023-6-5 07:41:06 |显示全部楼层
Gang's categorization of the United States:
• The US wants to maintain its position as the world's sole hegemony and will not accept any other oppositional power
• Practicality runs at its core: the US has a long and successful history of defeating competing world powers by any means necessary
• All of the US's war preparations in the Asia-Pacific region have already been completed
• USD is used as a weapon by the US to exploit other countries by reaping the benefits of their labor
• The US has no actual interests in curbing divisions and instead wants to disintegrate China; they will unite the entire capitalist world and go to war to do so

https://twitter.com/VirtuHanna/status/1665336232799354886

美国已经完成战争准备

美国用美元为武器剥削其他国家

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:42:26 |显示全部楼层
Gang's categorization of China:
• There are many people in China who believe the US cannot afford war with China, but they are misguided
• China currently cares more about "face" (respect/reputation) than practicality, but the survival of the nation is at stake if they don't exert their power
• China's development is fundamentally reshaping the world economy
• Since 2012, China has taken a more openly confident approach to the US, and thus, relations will never return to the way they were before
• A major challenge for China is whether they can bear the US's exploitation and oppression: China must be vigilant at all times

https://twitter.com/VirtuHanna/status/1665336469630623745

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:44:19 |显示全部楼层
The recording also talks about Gang's thoughts on Russia:
• Putin is an exemplification of the kind of will that China needs to have
• Russia cannot win outright against the US, but can drag the US down with them
• Putin is consolidating and unifying the third world against the US in a magnitude never seen since the Cold War
• Whichever side China supports in the Russo-Ukrainian war will win
• China is supporting Russia economically and politically

https://twitter.com/VirtuHanna/status/1665336682156109824

普京展示了中国应该具备的意志;普京使得第三世界自冷战结束以来前所未有地团结起来。

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发表于 2023-6-5 07:52:00 |显示全部楼层
据说该视频首先出现在国内社交媒体上然后被封掉

是否表明部分民族主义者对当局过于软弱、没有对美作战准备不满?待了解

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发表于 2023-6-5 09:14:51 |显示全部楼层
下面有网友表示这个声音和内容像是知名民族主义者卢麒元

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发表于 2023-6-5 21:26:40 |显示全部楼层
假设中美真开战了(仅假设),红中网又该怎么做出什么样的理论解释?继续“客观上打击了新自由主义体系吗?”

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starlight  这种“假设”本身就是逻辑陷阱,毫无意义  发表于 2023-6-5 22:18:05

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